[This is a discussion between two people on an article]
Religion and other forms of magical thinking continue to thrive — despite the lack of evidence and advance of science — because people are naturally biased to accept a role for the irrational, said Bruce Hood, Professor of Experimental Psychology at the University of Bristol.[2]
This evolved credulity suggests that it would be impossible to root out belief in ideas such as creationism and paranormal phenomena, even though they have been countered by evidence and are held as a matter of faith alone.[2]
It [2] doesn't serve as evidence or proof of any kind. It's just a huge coloring-in of what people think fits if they want to hold fast to naturalism being fake. It also makes a few appeals to the authority without telling why he his supposed conclusions or supposed evidence are so authoritative. It's really a pathetic display of pomp over theists and mystics, disguised as scientific news.
Creation is just a hypothesis; nobody can prove it or demonstrate that creation didn't happen. Evolution is a process; it happens daily and it has been happening for a long period of time. If creation is real, the stories in bible are real, then, the ancient living things should be identical to the modern living organisms. Of course, there are much more evidence to support evolution.
Evolution is not an evidence to support "god doesn't exist". It can be an machinery for the creator to create the world. Again, it is just a hypothesis. That is why I am an agnostics.
I won't debate creation and evolution, as they are two different things - one is a hypothesis while the other one is a process.
Well if that is all that Evolution is, then you would be right. Then again, we could really go bare-bones, saying that evolution is just another word for progress or for any change over time.
I was referring to the Evolution that Darwin made popular. Creationists have a term, baramin, which is also said "created kind". "A species is a man-made term used in the modern classification system. And frankly, the word species is difficult to define, whether one is a creationist or not!" Also, as baraminology is being refined, a "Baramin is commonly believed to be at the level of family and possibly order for some plants/animals (according to the common classification scheme of kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species). On rare occasions a kind may be equivalent to the genus or species levels." One baramin does not give birth to another kind, no matter how subtly it is part of the other kind.
It's not the case that (Biblically) Literal Creationism demands that animals be exactly the same as their ancestors of 4004 B.C. As someone who accepts that the Global Flood really happened, i believe in a more active evolution of animals than a Darwin-like Evolutionist does. 2348 B.C. (or was it 2347, oops) is last minute for Darwin-like Evolution. But, no morphological advancement would make a new baramin (a.k.a. created kind), neither has such been observed.
You are right: "Evolution is not an evidence to support "god doesn't exist"."Even if you stated, "Evolution does not force the idea that god doesn't exist." Besides that D.Evolution is not evidence, you would still be right. But, for your soul's sake, theism and even monotheism are not enough. E.g. James 2:19 in the Bible, "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" Bible-ism is better than monotheism. E.g. Jesus said in Mark 8:38 and similarly in Luke 9:26, "For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful
generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." All i'm really trying to say in this paragraph is that monotheism is just a starting point in accepting the truthfulness of the Bible, and thus Darwin-like Evolution is anti-Bible and not anti-universe-creator if you stick to a modern, generic One that used or allowed Darwinism.
There are many evidence for evolution; evolution talks about the process of the change of the organisms but not how the life begins. There is no conflict between creation and evolution. Let's get back to the "time frame of evolution". According to bible, world was created only a few thousand years ago! I won't expect much difference between today organisms and those existed a few thousand years ago. But we know that there were living things long before "those few days" that Bible God created the world.
Again, there is no evidence for "no creator" and there is also no evidence for "the existence of creator". Intelligent design as well as atheism are absolutely fine to me, and I am an agnostic.
One more thing -- Bible God is not necessary The Creator.
Here are some key hypotheses:
1. There is a Creator.
2. Creator created the world.
3. Bible God exists.
4. Bible God is the creator.
5. Bible God is love.
6. Global flood existed. Bible God almost erased all the living things on earth just simply because a few people worshiped other gods.
Look, hypothesis 5 contradicts hypothesis 6. Besides, Bible's description about nature is quite different from what we have observed. In addition, there are also lots of questions in Bible. For example, right before Jesus died, Jesus said something like ... "God, why did you give me up?" This really indicated Jesus was not closely related to God. Besides, Jesus never said, he was the God. And, I don't find anything about trinity in the bible. Please, don't take it wrong. I am not saying there is no Creator, no God. I just don't know. On the other hand, there are too many issues and hypotheses related to Bible/Creation, and that is why I am an agnostic.
[We can't really debate a topic based on personal feelings or opinion, simply because there is no conclusion. ]
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